aresian
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Post by aresian on Jul 3, 2012 14:33:14 GMT -5
I just began researching this plant in both how it's grown, cultivated, and ultimately how it is used in ceremony. I'm not looking for a cheap thrill I'm looking for a spiritual experience. If this plant cannot provide what I'm looking for then I will dispose of what I have left and never entertain the idea again. However, right now I'm thinking about using it. It is illegal in my state but I have obtain some and it keeps for a long time. I'm trying to figure out if a ceremony is worth it. The substance only lasts 10-15 minutes. However, if my experiences with other plant substances is any indication my experience with divinorum will last close to an hour. I'll probably peak at 30minutes or so. It makes me slightly nervous due to it's reputation for being more intense than mushrooms. I don't know though and I will never know until I try it. I plan on trying the lowest possible amount I can just to see what it does.
This is the phase of experimenting to see what works for my body, mind, and spirit then I can move on to a ceremony if I wish or dispose of the salvia divinorum. Either way I feel I should try it so I can teach about my experience with it.
A friend of mine gave me this for my birthday this year and I've been trying to get my mind in a good place so I can try what I want to do. But spiritually and mentally I've been rather unstable lately so I don't know if I will ever try salvia divinorum. I may end up just getting rid of it and moving on. If my mind is telling me no then I wont do it.
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Post by aoz on Jul 3, 2012 17:28:49 GMT -5
Divinorum may only feel active for around a half hour, but in my and other's experience, the aftereffects last much longer I.E. creativity, outlook on existence/the universe, space and time understanding, etc.
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Post by Alice on Jul 3, 2012 21:05:34 GMT -5
You might try a sublingual application. In other words moisten a little of it and chew on the leaves for an extended period. I'm told the effect lasts longer and is more stable than smoking it.
If you should choose to dispose of it, I can think of a few people you could send it to. It's still legal in a lot of places.
May you find what you seek,
Alice
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Post by aresian on Jul 4, 2012 2:57:20 GMT -5
To be exact it is a 35x concentrate. I'm not sure what that means other than it's supposed to be more concentrated that the normal dried plant. I'm a little nervous taking this for my first time. I don't want it to last longer but a more stable experience would be nice... I don't know I think what's going to happen is I'm going to smoke the smallest amount possible and see what that does. I will have a "sitter" one who is sober and of a clear enough mind and experienced enough with people "tripping" that they can understand what is going on. I have one such person whom I trust that much. I think if I just ask him I can try it and we can wait a half hour and then decide what else to do. If it is a pleasant experience then I can set up a ceremony for myself and just do it. If it isn't a good experience I will dispose of it. I am officially stating when I say dispose of it I mean throw it into the incinerator. Unofficially we can discuss the proper means of disposing of such a substance, make it disappear.
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Post by aoz on Jul 5, 2012 19:47:19 GMT -5
To be exact it is a 35x concentrate. I'm not sure what that means other than it's supposed to be more concentrated that the normal dried plant. I'm a little nervous taking this for my first time. I don't want it to last longer but a more stable experience would be nice... I don't know I think what's going to happen is I'm going to smoke the smallest amount possible and see what that does. I will have a "sitter" one who is sober and of a clear enough mind and experienced enough with people "tripping" that they can understand what is going on. I have one such person whom I trust that much. I think if I just ask him I can try it and we can wait a half hour and then decide what else to do. If it is a pleasant experience then I can set up a ceremony for myself and just do it. If it isn't a good experience I will dispose of it. I am officially stating when I say dispose of it I mean throw it into the incinerator. Unofficially we can discuss the proper means of disposing of such a substance, make it disappear. Alright, so 35x means that the plant's constituents were extracted and reapplied to divinorum plant matter to increase the potency to thirty five times what it would naturally be. Smoking one gram of 35x in one minute would put the same concentration in your bloodstream as smoking thirty five grams in one minute, were such a thing humanly possible. Make sense? As for routes of administration, the quid method seems to be best for a longer more stable experience, but doesn't work well with dried material. The quid method is making a small wad, placing it in the lip and absorbing the drug sublingually, swallowing the juices as the mouth fills up. For smoking, a cigarette is absolutely wasteful and near pointless as it doesn't burn hot enough. A pipe is recommended and a water pipe is even better. When applying heat to combust the material, don't simply light it and inhale, but keep the flame on the plant matter the whole time you are inhaling. The actives in it don't readily burn at lower temperatures and you could end up wasting a lot the other way. Considering how hot you must get the material to burn, the smoke will be harsh on the lungs, so using a water pipe will benefit the user, as the actives aren't readily water soluble, but the water will cool the smoke making it less harsh on the lungs. And sitting down while smoking it is a good idea, or you may wake up collapsed on the ground For a first time user with thirty five times extract, I would recommend the first experience being with a mixture of half 35x salvia extract and half tobacco or another smokable substance to cut it a bit. Remember that when smoking, taking the drags in rapid succession and holding each lungful for the longest time possible will result in the greatest bang for your buck, as the chemical is destroyed by your body at a very rapid rate. If smoking, and coming down, all that is needed to elongate the experience is smoking more product. If a half and half mixture doesn't get you where you want to go, I'd jump up to 100 percent 35x salvia extracted leaf matter. One typical pipe bowl's worth of material is generally all that is needed to get one where they want to go, and often times it gets one much farther than even that. Tread carefully and remember to enjoy yourself |
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Post by aresian on Jul 5, 2012 21:06:12 GMT -5
Man I wish I could do this with you two present I just think first of all it would be quite a fun gathering and second I just think it would be fun. I mean the experience itself is very much an individual journey but gathering such really awesome energy peopl together I think would be so very cool. My travel energy really wants to visit people anyways. Anyhoo, I think this journey will be most enlightening.
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