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Post by aresian on Jul 16, 2012 0:48:43 GMT -5
Ok, there are plenty of natural sources but I'm talking the super-concentrated form they add to beverages. That's because I just realized today how addicted I was. I have gone 24hours without a single food or drink with caffeine... wait no I had chocolate doughnuts but they barely have enough. Ok, so no caffeinated beverages of any kind for sure because I've been drinking nothing but water. Ok, so it isn't the sugar, I did have those doughnuts, so it must be the caffeine. While chocolate has some naturally I guess it isn't nearly the levels my body is used to. To balance the day I did have cabbage, potato, carrot, chicken soup we made ourselves right here. The soup was a lot more satisfying than even those doughnuts were (mini chocolate doughnuts so I think I'm ok). Anyways, so I'm certain I haven't drank any caffeine nor eaten enough of it. How do I know this with certainty?
I have a bit of a headache and am a little dizzy. I keep drinking water like crazy because my body thinks it'll get a soda pop in there somehow. It wont, I'm out of pop and I can't really afford to go get more at the moment. I'm not out of tea or coffee but am currently keeping form those as I want to rid my system of this addiction. When it gets past 24hours the headache will go away. Anyways, thought I'd keep notes.
Withdrawal is a bitch most certainly. I mean my body is begging for the caffeine bad. I can't concentrate (more than usual) and am feeling hungry or thirsty in intervals with the cravings. Apparently my body is willing to consume anything that has caffeine... the chocolate doughnuts were a mistake. I am making sure I don't drink too much water but I am at the same time making sure I keep hydrated. My body just isn't used to this state.
Headache is already subsiding so I think I'm ok. Just super thirsty but that could be due to the day. I went outside to get a piece of tin off the roof that was loosened by the wind and was making a lot of noise. It required me to climb a ladder and go cut it off and I hate heights and a bouncy ladder makes it worse... I really freaked out but I got it. Darn it... I try so hard not to be afraid of heights but this one is pretty ingrained. Meh, anyways I'm attempting to distract my thoughts from the real issue because if I dwell on it I'm going to end up brewing up a cup of tea. Which isn't bad but then I wont get sleep and I'll be dead to tomorrow day light.
I'm even starting to see things... kinda worries me. I don't think it's entirely the fault of no caffeine but it isn't helping. I'm sure I'm just getting visions but I can't really deal with that now either.
Lol, well I'm going to have a fun night anyways it seems... sarcasm.
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Post by aresian on Jul 16, 2012 18:48:03 GMT -5
Well, that didn't last long. My attempts to stop cold-turkey have met with absolute failure. Ok, onward with life then. I suppose I can try gradually reducing my intake of caffeine see if that's more lasting with less severe of bodily effects. I should get back into drinking tea. I miss tea.
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Post by aresian on Jul 17, 2012 10:57:55 GMT -5
Caffeine side effects: high heart rate, anxiety, irritability, and gastrointestinal issues (not sure if that's for everyone or just me). On the plus side it can give the appearance of wakefulness and at the peak of the affect of caffeine does keep one awake. Another side effect is insomnia. Also caffeine has a short affect time where it takes possibly 2 hours to hit the decline from the peak to where the affects wear off. It is relatively ineffective considering people abuse this substance to stay actively awake, I say this because while you might not be able to sleep soundly you aren't necessarily actively awake just not fully asleep for one. Also, the substance encourages the increase in dose just to keep the same affect as when first taken. Some allow the does to increase to such levels as caffeine becomes the problem and no longer a solution (if it ever was a solution). It really is concerning someone who needs to drink a couple cups of coffee every 2-3 hours. That means at minimum over the course of an average work day, full time, of 8hours you consume at least 8 cups of coffee. That's a lot and I do know of people who do drink the equivalent. That's an addiction and even me with my addiction I do not drink 8 cups of soda, coffee, or other beverage. At most I drink 2 standard American cans of soda (can't remember the oz on cans but usually one 24oz bottle or 2 cans). Granted there are other sources that might skew my count. Like tea, green tea has caffeine unless otherwise noted, chocolate (has to be a lot and I don't even eat chocolate regularly maybe like once a week), and even clear sodas have caffeine (sprite does anyway). I make sure to watch how much soda I drink and I don't drink coffee anymore so I'm ok when I wish to lower my does until I stop caffeine entirely. Anyways, I think I've said all I can about caffeine.
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Post by aoz on Jul 18, 2012 13:18:48 GMT -5
caffeine is incredibly addictive, and ceasing cold turkey is not something I would recommend to anyone. The headaches and sluggishness alone are enough to drag anyone down. Decreasing dose and frequency of dosing is a good idea, and I always do my best to avoid non-natural caffiene sources......
but I have been addicted for years, and every time I come off of it, the withdrawl effects continue on for more than a week, and the irritability persists long after........I've since given up on a caffeine free life.....despite the negative effects of caffeine addiction, there are astronomical benefits. So I consider it what typical amerikans consider addiction with benefits......a prescription
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Post by aoz on Jul 18, 2012 13:37:05 GMT -5
also, despite the peak and dropoff appearing to be rather quick, did you know the half life for caffeine in the body is twelve hours? Thus you may have much more buildup in your system than you would imagine.....the buildup I have is insane, which is why I'm able to sleep even after drinking two pots of coffee (my average daily dose)
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Post by Alice on Aug 4, 2012 15:36:14 GMT -5
All that is true, but people who genuinely have ADD, which if I'm not mistaken includes both you, react differently to stimulants. The body doesn't process them the same way, and they act more as stabilizers.
Which is why typical prescriptions for ADD/ADHD are various amphetamines. In someone like me, that kind of thing would put me through the roof and actually make it harder to focus. Not so with those who really need it.
I drink soda for the carbonation, which is kinda weird. I crave it and I don't know why. Doesn't have to be caffeinated, and I prefer sparkling cider or home made soda from fruit juice and yeast.
I'm not a coffee fan at all.
May you find what you seek,
Alice
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Post by aoz on Aug 9, 2012 10:59:33 GMT -5
I've been dealing with the withdrawls on and off, and I've found that eating a lot of hot peppers will negate the headache
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Post by aresian on Aug 9, 2012 15:02:48 GMT -5
I personally don't find hot peppers nearly as affective as a nice hot curry. I don't mean like overwhelm your taste with just hot but curry seems to work a bit differently than peppers in the cleansing it does through the hot sensation. I use curry to clear my sinuses and help my mood. I can see it helping the headaches due to the way it affects the blood pressure. I mean I'm not a doctor but I can tell there is definitely an increase in blood flow through both hot peppers and curry. Curry seems to send the blood more towards the surface of the skin (getting flush and such) where peppers act directly through the mucus membranes in the mouth, throat, and any other part of the body a hot pepper may contact (I've noticed the eyes-hence I make a note to wash my hands thoroughly even if I don't believe I've touch the pepper). So, I guess it depends on what type of headache you have on how affective the spicy hot will be for it.
By the way we got a perfect red jalapeno pepper right off the vine from our garden. It was delicious and pretty potent seeing as one of us decided to just bite into it raw <.< definitely not me I prefer it in salsa or on a burger you know some kind of medium between me and the jalapeno. I mean she didn't bite to the seed part (she ate around it) but it was still hot enough. I'd imagine the seeds would have been super hot seeing that is normally the place the oils are most potent.
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Post by nyxson on Nov 26, 2012 0:49:49 GMT -5
Speaking from a psyvamp's point of view, caffeine is probably the one drug I will never realistically quit, even though all it does is speed up my heart rate, and when I'm at full energetic capacity (be it in social situations with friends or after intimate feeds with my girlfriend) I notice that caffeine actually makes my speech faster, louder, and I have symptoms similar to tourettes syndrome; especially coprolalia and excessive fidgeting.
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Post by Alice on Nov 26, 2012 1:19:54 GMT -5
I can imagine that taking caffeine immediately after feeding would be comparable to an amphetamine high. It is probably quite entertaining for your friends.
Caffeine in reasonable quantities, fortunately, isn't all that bad for you. Over doing it can cause heart attacks among other things, but it's mostly the other toxins in the caffeinated beverages that you have to worry about.
May you find what you seek,
Alice
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Post by aresian on Nov 27, 2012 1:15:42 GMT -5
I tried an energy drink similar to the five-hour drinks out there. Made me ill for a couple days. Not sure it was the caffeine or the other dozen or so toxic substances they added like cornsyrup, guarana (do you really know how much they put in?), taurine, the cheap sources of vitamin b... whatever the source of illness I got sick directly from that. Staying off that stuff from now on. I shall stick to my licorice root thanks. (not sure it is caffeine but it has a good stimulant affect).
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